Episode 005 – Divine Sovereignty: Power to Manipulate or the Weakeness that Summons


In this fifth episode, we will explore ancient and modern conceptions of divine sovereignty, asking questions like:
- What does it mean (or has it meant) to say that “God is in control”?
- Is the very concept of divine sovereignty antithetical to the idea of human freedom? And from such a question, we may wish to ask, what is freedom?
- Alternatively, a la Marx, in what way are conceptions of divine sovereignty actually just the human being’s use of God as an excuse to quetionable action which in turn alienates both themselves and others out of realizing the importance of their own concrete action (or perhaps, their own “divinity” as Marx would say). In other words, such a person might say, ”if God has it all figured out in advance, all I need to do is figure out what God’s will is and then make it happen!”
- Does the Christian God, epecially as exemplified in Jesus, depict a God of manipulation and control, or is Jesus an example of a different kind of sovereignty? (This is what I am exploring in the title in reference to Weakness)
- Beyond divine sovereignty, what do we think it means to talk about sovereignty in the context of states, and governements. Furthermore, how have the conc
eptions of state sovereignty either influenced or been influenced by conceptions of divine sovereignty?
- Why does any of this matter for living “the good life” or the ethical life?
Please feel free to preempt our show with comments and debates on our forum! We look forward to it!
Show Notes:
Rube GoldBerg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg
- God and World in the Old Testament: A Relational Theology of Creation by Terence E. Fretheim – Pages 270-272.
- The Road: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road
This episode is 58 min long.
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I have a few thoughts.
Is saying “God is in control” the same as saying “God controls everything”?
In my experiences I’ve heard the following bible verses used to answer, “Why did God let this bad thing happen?”
; and “all things work together for good” Romans 8:28
“God’s ways are higher than our ways” Isaiah 55:7-11
I feel those are not sufficient answers and wonder what is the original intent/context of those verses.
Looking forward to hearing your discussion.